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Jill Grunewald's avatar

It is recent and I am reporting it to Medicare as fraud. Her receptionist agreed with me when I told her I wouldn’t pay for a phone call of 5 minutes for results of a test I was entitled to. My mammogram results were mailed to me as expected.

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Alan Unell Ph.D.'s avatar

Good for you, Jill!! Let us know how it goes.

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Gary S.'s avatar

Alan,

When an insurance company rejects pre-authorization and the patient experiences a calamity because treatment was delayed, can the insurance company be sued? Are there instances where such lawsuits have succeeded?

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Alan Unell Ph.D.'s avatar

Hi Gary - When an insurance company declines to pay, you can force an appeal. That is with the company reviewing the denial internally. If they still deny many state insurance commissioners have an office that can force an external review of the request for payment. It is adjudicated by someone outside of the insurance company. IF that fails - I would try in the courts. I wrote about this before where the patient was an attorney. He wound up paying cash (more than $100K) then sued to get the money back. He won the case but the company tried to make him take the discounted rate they would have paid instead of what he was forced to pay. SCUM.

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Alan Unell Ph.D.'s avatar

Good suggestions!!

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Caroline's avatar

There is a movie called Bleedout. Watch it if you haven't. It is about the producer/director's battle over his mother's care. (Last time I checked, it was on HBO and maybe a few other streaming services, too.) Sad, but worth a watch.

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Jill Grunewald's avatar

I received a gyn exam and never received results as I always had in the past. I phoned two months after not receiving a letter and was told the doctor would call me. She did and I received the results in a 5 minute phone call. A month later she billed my insurance company over $600. Surely a letter, an envelope and a stamp would have taken more time. These outrageous bills to Medicare must be outlawed!! Since when does someone taking a test not entitled to results unless there is another fee?

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Alan Unell Ph.D.'s avatar

Thanks for sharing this. If this was recent I would contact Medicare as this is apparently fraud. They should ask the Dr to retract the bill. If that d I sent work perhaps we can submit it to the DOJ for criminal prosecution.

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Caroline's avatar

Here's an interesting one: my father, who has medicare + a supplement, had an appointment with a NP for routine care. A surgeon evidently found out he was there and "popped in" to try to con him into the same the same unwarranted surgery he's been hammering on my dad about for ages. We are all sure it is not only unnecessary but would be catastrophic for my father's health. My father told him he was not interested and the physician left. The physician then billed my father for a consultation. The medicare + medigap combo says they won't pay for both appointments, so now my dad is left holding the proverbial bag for one of the appointments. I have urged him to complain and/or appeal. Like many people he has lots of reservations about doing so: the bill, though meaningful, won't impoverish him; there aren't many doctors in the area and he is loath to get a reputation as a complainer; he has "good" insurance, so it's confusing when they won't pay; and dare I suggest .... real men don't ask for help (or directions ??), etc., etc. It's fraudsters like this physician who give fee-for-service a bad name.... and it's beyond exasperating. There are sort of two issues here: dangerous and/or incompetent providers and those who try to game the payment system. Complaining is the only way I know to focus scrutiny on such providers and actions. It is really unfortunate that it can come at a high "cost" to the patient.

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Alan Unell Ph.D.'s avatar

Dawna - what nightmare. Let me make a suggestion. Call the local office of your member of Congress (or senator) They have staff whose only job is to clear up problems with government agencies. You might be surprised that they can help.

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